16 Comments to “Extreme Parenting: Vandalism Edition”

  1. Christine

    Jun 13th, 2009

    Yelling sucks, but it's a cake walk compared to NOT yelling.

    But it's possible.

    Very, very slowly … but possible.

  2. Wendy

    Jun 14th, 2009

    Can I request a post where you teach me how not to sound annoyed? In all seriousness, I am more patient with other children than I am with my own. My annoyed voice is almost immediate some days, 0 to Done in 2 seconds.

  3. Chris F.

    Jun 14th, 2009

    It's amazing to see someone with what's clearly a lot of patience. (I have to admit I didn't read anything other than the linked post on Christine's blog, so this may be obvious to her usual readers…) I have to question how her choice to devote so much energy to Mar's positive development has affected the rest of her family. Surely it is possible that this could cause irreparable harm to the relationships in the rest of the family, even though it seems she's managing by virtue of what might be sheer will. How do you convince yourself and your family that it's worth the risk you're taking? And if you're set on adopting a child in need, why not choose one that's less of an obvious risk? Perhaps this sounds selfish, but I think opening your heart and your home to any adopted child is certainly not selfish, so what do you really gain by taking the more difficult path that's also fraught with long-term risk?

    • dewde

      Jun 15th, 2009

      I have wondered this myself. On the one hand I admire her and her husband's courage, on the other hand I worry for her existing family.

      However, so far from what I have read, they have the right attitude and approach to handle this correctly. It takes special people to pull this off, no doubt. Totally not for everyone.

      Plus this could just as easily have a positive effect on their kids. Especially if they grow into people like their parents, and they do so with eyes wide open.

      People like this can do a lot of good in the world.

      peace|dewde

      • Chris F.

        Jun 15th, 2009

        I don't doubt that it *could* be a very positive thing in the end, but I think I'd disagree with your "just as easily" claim! Unless she's totally embellishing her experiences, their family is on a crazy ride.

        It'd be interesting to see more posts about her "conventional" children and how they're coping with this and what actions she's taking to make sure things work out for the best. I should read more of her blog, I guess, but then it would cut into my incessant trolling of *this* blog!

        • dewde

          Jun 15th, 2009

          "it would cut into my incessant trolling of *this* blog!"

          Wouldn't /that/ be a shame.

          "It'd be interesting to see more posts about her "conventional" children and how they're coping with this and what actions she's taking to make sure things work out for the best."

          I agree.

          peace|dewde

  4. AnneB

    Jun 15th, 2009

    Whoa. Hey, Dewde – I met you this morning at the focus group for Starting Point, and I'm overwhelmed by this post and by crazy Christine – what a mom! Thanks for sharing this with me. Love the Burger King Exorcism, too. Your daughters are going to be incredibly glad to have this someday.

  5. AnneB

    Jun 15th, 2009

    Oh, and I give myself a C while still working on it.

  6. Meghan

    Jun 15th, 2009

    Ouch.

    This one hurts a bit. I am very prone to yelling. Even at myself. I give myself a big ol’ fat F.

  7. dewde

    Jun 15th, 2009

    Does anyone else take issue with #3 and #4? I figured I would see more controversy around those.

    In the first place, it makes sense. It passes the "Do as I do" anti-hypocrisy sniff test. But on the other hand, is it giving too much power over to your kids?

    peace|dewde

    • Joey

      Jun 16th, 2009

      #3
      I think it is okay to let your kids speak up and express themselves. However I don’t think I need to give them something special afterward. I think it is important for them to see you apologize for a mistake….
      Why do they need something special just because they got hurt? What if you don’t maintain that each time?
      We tell our girls we love them and Daddy or Mommy made a mistake.

      That being said I really like what she is doing. As hard as it is, none yelling approach works and seems to actually save you time. Yelling always seems to make the situation last longer.
      I give myself a C+ to B- depending on the day.

  8. Chris F.

    Jun 15th, 2009

    IMO, you can't sustain a healthy, power-based relationship with your kids, so I think I'm on board with her there.

    • dewde

      Jun 15th, 2009

      I guess I'm a little bit old school. I want my girls to respect authority. Not necessarily agree with authority or obey authority brainlessly… but have a respect for it none-the-less.

      Christine's advice about all parties following the no yelling rule sets the "No Yelling Principle" as the authority.

      peace|dewde

      • Chris F.

        Jun 15th, 2009

        I dunno. I think "respecting authority" in your example might be synonymous with "avoiding punishment." When your kid's strategy in a given situation can be reduced to avoiding negative consequences, then you're unlikely to achieve the behavior that you really want.

  9. Wendy

    Jun 23rd, 2009

    We have something similar in our house, but its not about yelling. I have a bad habit of saying the word stupid. As in, I stubbed my toe on the stupid door. We have tried to get Kat to not call anyone stupid, so when mommy says it, she whispers to daddy that I said a bad word, and due to her poor whispering, I overhear and apologize for losing my temper. Kinda the same thing. But I don't give treats for stuff like that. Sincere apology is supposed to be stand-alone.


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