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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-3130</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So your initial decision to be an atheist was based on what? That some high school kids who wubbed jeebus were stupid? Surely you based it on much more than that. Those reasons are still there. Unless you&#039;ve seen god in person, or felt it in a tangible way (no not some BS church worship stuff) the original reasons for your lack of belief are still valid. 
 
 You still cannot see or feel god, but you can everything else in your life. And when you came to your decision about GOD what made you immediately leap to the christian faith? Methinks you just got brainwashed by your wife. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So your initial decision to be an atheist was based on what? That some high school kids who wubbed jeebus were stupid? Surely you based it on much more than that. Those reasons are still there. Unless you&#039;ve seen god in person, or felt it in a tangible way (no not some BS church worship stuff) the original reasons for your lack of belief are still valid. </p>
<p> You still cannot see or feel god, but you can everything else in your life. And when you came to your decision about GOD what made you immediately leap to the christian faith? Methinks you just got brainwashed by your wife.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelley R.</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-573</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelley R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. This post is old, so sorry in advance for crashing it so late, if that&#039;s inconvenient. Your video (and story) just left me with a few unanswered questions. You speak of becoming a Christian after being an Atheist, but in such a way as to insinuate it was a decision, something you chose to do. I would appreciate some clarification on that point.  
 
Here&#039;s where you lose me: Christians believe in a God, Atheists do not. Given. But belief has never struck me as something a person could choose. In the case of conversion, it doesn&#039;t seem to me that people convert from not believing to believing; rather they convert from one mode of belief to another. In my opinion this would seem make conversion from Atheism to any variety of theism uncommonly difficult. (Maybe I&#039;m wrong about this?) I&#039;m sure the distinction will strike some Christians here as strange or inappropriate, as they often seem to interpret Atheism as actively believing in the non-existence of a God (which it sometimes) rather than a lack of believe (which, I&#039;m inclined to think it more often is) but I think it stands nonetheless. 
 
Hopefully this is making sense, but I&#039;ll throw in a personal anecdote to try to clarify a little: I have actually tried to believe in God. Multiple times. I was raised in a very religious (Christian) home and as a result grew up continually assaulted with the ideas of Hell and eternal torment for non-believers. Unfortunately, like all children, my psychology predisposed me to believe much of what adults told me. However, I have never (to my knowledge) been able to effortlessly believe in a deity. (Effortlessness seeming to be necessary for it to be true belief, and not self-persuasion.) This put me in the apparently uncommon position of attempting to force myself to believe something I could not believe, out of fear of a contingent assertion. As a result, I am quite familiar with the nature of belief being such that it is uninfluenced by artificial manipulation.  
 
Maybe you were experiencing a different &quot;kind&quot; of Atheism than I am familiar with, or perhaps my assumptions are wrong. Feel free to correct me. But in any case, I&#039;d like to know your take on that. Were you simply non-religious out of apathy prior to your conversion, or did you really not believe in theistic religion? Do you believe in God now? Do you believe in Jesus? (Forgive me if you feel the answers to those questions should go without saying. For me they don&#039;t, as I have myself attempted to be religious, while knowing all the while I didn&#039;t really believe any of what I was doing.) What does &quot;belief&quot; in those contexts mean to you? If you really did not believe in such premises before your conversion how do you think you began believing in them? 
 
Sorry this comment is so long, (and contains so many questions) but I hope you respond. Please believe me that my questions are genuine and honest, and not intended to make a point or elicit a reaction. I know these days the interweebz seem to be full-to-the-eyeballs of trolling Atheist assholes (and trolling Christian assholes) and I&#039;m not trying to be one of those. 
 
Edit: This is the second time I&#039;ve tried to post a comment, so if this one goes through twice, my apologies; it didn&#039;t work the first time. :O) 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. This post is old, so sorry in advance for crashing it so late, if that&#039;s inconvenient. Your video (and story) just left me with a few unanswered questions. You speak of becoming a Christian after being an Atheist, but in such a way as to insinuate it was a decision, something you chose to do. I would appreciate some clarification on that point.  </p>
<p>Here&#039;s where you lose me: Christians believe in a God, Atheists do not. Given. But belief has never struck me as something a person could choose. In the case of conversion, it doesn&#039;t seem to me that people convert from not believing to believing; rather they convert from one mode of belief to another. In my opinion this would seem make conversion from Atheism to any variety of theism uncommonly difficult. (Maybe I&#039;m wrong about this?) I&#039;m sure the distinction will strike some Christians here as strange or inappropriate, as they often seem to interpret Atheism as actively believing in the non-existence of a God (which it sometimes) rather than a lack of believe (which, I&#039;m inclined to think it more often is) but I think it stands nonetheless. </p>
<p>Hopefully this is making sense, but I&#039;ll throw in a personal anecdote to try to clarify a little: I have actually tried to believe in God. Multiple times. I was raised in a very religious (Christian) home and as a result grew up continually assaulted with the ideas of Hell and eternal torment for non-believers. Unfortunately, like all children, my psychology predisposed me to believe much of what adults told me. However, I have never (to my knowledge) been able to effortlessly believe in a deity. (Effortlessness seeming to be necessary for it to be true belief, and not self-persuasion.) This put me in the apparently uncommon position of attempting to force myself to believe something I could not believe, out of fear of a contingent assertion. As a result, I am quite familiar with the nature of belief being such that it is uninfluenced by artificial manipulation.  </p>
<p>Maybe you were experiencing a different &quot;kind&quot; of Atheism than I am familiar with, or perhaps my assumptions are wrong. Feel free to correct me. But in any case, I&#039;d like to know your take on that. Were you simply non-religious out of apathy prior to your conversion, or did you really not believe in theistic religion? Do you believe in God now? Do you believe in Jesus? (Forgive me if you feel the answers to those questions should go without saying. For me they don&#039;t, as I have myself attempted to be religious, while knowing all the while I didn&#039;t really believe any of what I was doing.) What does &quot;belief&quot; in those contexts mean to you? If you really did not believe in such premises before your conversion how do you think you began believing in them? </p>
<p>Sorry this comment is so long, (and contains so many questions) but I hope you respond. Please believe me that my questions are genuine and honest, and not intended to make a point or elicit a reaction. I know these days the interweebz seem to be full-to-the-eyeballs of trolling Atheist assholes (and trolling Christian assholes) and I&#039;m not trying to be one of those. </p>
<p>Edit: This is the second time I&#039;ve tried to post a comment, so if this one goes through twice, my apologies; it didn&#039;t work the first time. :O)</p>
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		<title>By: Sean R Reid</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean R Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously late to the party but I&#039;m just now getting caught up on the comments from your story. 
 
My congratulations and gratitude again!  It&#039;s also oddly consoling to see that you also experienced the &quot;you weren&#039;t really an atheist&quot; or &quot;you&#039;ve chosen to be ignorant&quot; comments.  I&#039;ll never figure out why some of my former, atheist, friends (&#039;former&#039; by their choice, not mine) decided that the conversion FROM Christianity to atheism is &quot;maturing&quot; and discovering the work of God in my life was &quot;ignorant.&quot;  It honestly smacks of ego in the highest degree.   
 
Once upon a time that would have made me angry.  Now it just makes me a little sad. 
 
Thanks again for sharing your story and for allowing a fellow convert to share it! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously late to the party but I&#039;m just now getting caught up on the comments from your story. </p>
<p>My congratulations and gratitude again!  It&#039;s also oddly consoling to see that you also experienced the &quot;you weren&#039;t really an atheist&quot; or &quot;you&#039;ve chosen to be ignorant&quot; comments.  I&#039;ll never figure out why some of my former, atheist, friends (&#039;former&#039; by their choice, not mine) decided that the conversion FROM Christianity to atheism is &quot;maturing&quot; and discovering the work of God in my life was &quot;ignorant.&quot;  It honestly smacks of ego in the highest degree.   </p>
<p>Once upon a time that would have made me angry.  Now it just makes me a little sad. </p>
<p>Thanks again for sharing your story and for allowing a fellow convert to share it!</p>
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		<title>By: dewde</title>
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		<dc:creator>dewde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thx Steve. And now I am subscribed to your blog so I will read it if you post it. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx Steve. And now I am subscribed to your blog so I will read it if you post it.</p>
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		<title>By: SCBubba</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-366</link>
		<dc:creator>SCBubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I was listening to some recent NorthPoint sermons on my iPod driving in to work. I heard Andy say your name and talk about your baptism story so I stopped by to see if it was you he was talking about. That&#039;s when I found this post. 
 
Thank you for sharing your story with us. I&#039;ve got a somewhat similar story (replace atheist with agnostic and 27 year old with 37 year old) but have never really walked through it or written it down. I&#039;m going to try to do that now. 
 
And thanks for creating a cool community on your blog. 
 
Peace. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I was listening to some recent NorthPoint sermons on my iPod driving in to work. I heard Andy say your name and talk about your baptism story so I stopped by to see if it was you he was talking about. That&#039;s when I found this post. </p>
<p>Thank you for sharing your story with us. I&#039;ve got a somewhat similar story (replace atheist with agnostic and 27 year old with 37 year old) but have never really walked through it or written it down. I&#039;m going to try to do that now. </p>
<p>And thanks for creating a cool community on your blog. </p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: djbyron</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-333</link>
		<dc:creator>djbyron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.. What an awesome story... Thanks for sharing that! 
 
They did an amazing job with that video too! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.. What an awesome story&#8230; Thanks for sharing that! </p>
<p>They did an amazing job with that video too!</p>
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		<title>By: justinthesouth</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-330</link>
		<dc:creator>justinthesouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris - WOW. Thank you for letting us be apart of your God-lead realization. With today being Christmas, it makes more since about how God could let his son come to earth after watching your story unfold.  
 
Thank you for being willing to let us all see into it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8211; WOW. Thank you for letting us be apart of your God-lead realization. With today being Christmas, it makes more since about how God could let his son come to earth after watching your story unfold.  </p>
<p>Thank you for being willing to let us all see into it.</p>
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		<title>By: Transparen Jay</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator>Transparen Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a phenomenal realization... &quot;I was 27 years old and that I was basically taking spiritual advice from a 17 year old boy.&quot; . 
 
As a former non-Christ-Follower, I am realizing that I did the same thing most of my adult life.  Everyone that I knew that was &#039;religious&#039; was &#039;old, and scared of death.&#039;  On top of that, most of them were judgmental and rude.   
 
That was the picture I had of religious people.  Unfortunately there are still plenty of those type of Christians, but Dewde and a whole generation of &#039;new followers&#039; are going to unleash social changes, and care for people like older generations could only hope to.  I&#039;m glad I found your blog! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a phenomenal realization&#8230; &quot;I was 27 years old and that I was basically taking spiritual advice from a 17 year old boy.&quot; . </p>
<p>As a former non-Christ-Follower, I am realizing that I did the same thing most of my adult life.  Everyone that I knew that was &#039;religious&#039; was &#039;old, and scared of death.&#039;  On top of that, most of them were judgmental and rude.   </p>
<p>That was the picture I had of religious people.  Unfortunately there are still plenty of those type of Christians, but Dewde and a whole generation of &#039;new followers&#039; are going to unleash social changes, and care for people like older generations could only hope to.  I&#039;m glad I found your blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris_F</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris_F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After mulling this over for a couple days, I think you&#039;re right.  Mostly.  ;)  I still think religion is bunk, but it&#039;s dumb for me to complain about people who are, in general, doing pretty good things for the world.  I should save my complaining for the minority of evil people who are hiding behind a religious front.  Though I&#039;d choose to live his life differently, Dewde seems to be doing a great job, and it&#039;s brave of him to be so transparent (the good version of &quot;transparent&quot; here) in posting tidbits of his life for people (apparently only me) to bitch about.  Two thumbs up. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After mulling this over for a couple days, I think you&#039;re right.  Mostly.  <img src='http://dewde.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   I still think religion is bunk, but it&#039;s dumb for me to complain about people who are, in general, doing pretty good things for the world.  I should save my complaining for the minority of evil people who are hiding behind a religious front.  Though I&#039;d choose to live his life differently, Dewde seems to be doing a great job, and it&#039;s brave of him to be so transparent (the good version of &quot;transparent&quot; here) in posting tidbits of his life for people (apparently only me) to bitch about.  Two thumbs up.</p>
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		<title>By: Archiemck</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator>Archiemck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing Chris! 
I&#039;m speechless, amazingly well done and numbingly honest... 
I would have expected nothing less </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing Chris!<br />
I&#039;m speechless, amazingly well done and numbingly honest&#8230;<br />
I would have expected nothing less</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy </title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-306</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL.  No, as you pointed out you don&#039;t know me but if you did, you would know your comments have not irked me.  I wouldn&#039;t say I disregard what you say, I just think its as uninformed as you think my standpoint is, and there is nothing wrong with that.  It&#039;s an interesting read and I think we view each others plight in much the same way.  The only difference is that I don&#039;t pity you - I think I was just trying to be helpful with my comments.  Whether you know it or not, you come across as condescending and patronizing.  (I have decided not to mince words now.)  I think your opinion is just as important as everyone else&#039;s so I was encouraging you to cut that out so that the rest of us would be more inclined to objectively look at your point of view.  I do not want to start a BLOG war (I just created that term, right, cause it feels cool to say), I just want to understand you, but the abrassiveness in the comments is getting in the way.  And I have the sickest feeling that this is only going to get worse, so I&#039;m pulling out now in the name of the Quakers.  I love the Quakers. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL.  No, as you pointed out you don&#039;t know me but if you did, you would know your comments have not irked me.  I wouldn&#039;t say I disregard what you say, I just think its as uninformed as you think my standpoint is, and there is nothing wrong with that.  It&#039;s an interesting read and I think we view each others plight in much the same way.  The only difference is that I don&#039;t pity you &#8211; I think I was just trying to be helpful with my comments.  Whether you know it or not, you come across as condescending and patronizing.  (I have decided not to mince words now.)  I think your opinion is just as important as everyone else&#039;s so I was encouraging you to cut that out so that the rest of us would be more inclined to objectively look at your point of view.  I do not want to start a BLOG war (I just created that term, right, cause it feels cool to say), I just want to understand you, but the abrassiveness in the comments is getting in the way.  And I have the sickest feeling that this is only going to get worse, so I&#039;m pulling out now in the name of the Quakers.  I love the Quakers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris_F</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris_F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not deriding Dewde.  I think he&#039;s a smart, accomplished, kind-hearted person.  But that doesn&#039;t make his beliefs immune to criticism, and it certainly doesn&#039;t mean that I have to take him as an all-or-nothing proposition.  I imagine that he writes this blog in part to get the occasional dissenting opinion rather than simply as a monument to his glory.  If that&#039;s untrue, then I hope he speaks up, because I sure do have more productive things to do with my time.  He also could surely moderate my comments into oblivion if he chooses.  What a boring and unproductive world you&#039;d inhabit if you couldn&#039;t criticize people&#039;s opinions.   I like seeing people&#039;s arguments for Christianity.  I think they&#039;re all silly, but they&#039;re indeed fascinating. 
 
You may be correct that it doesn&#039;t hurt anyone that you believe what you believe, but your actions may or may not refute that.  As an arbitrary example, someone may be against the distribution of the Plan B contraceptive based on his beliefs.  Or against the distribution of the HPV vaccine to school-aged children.  Or stem cell research.  Or abortion rights.  Or evolution education.  Or sex education.  Although you might think that his actions are not hurting anyone, if you advocate public policies that encourage restriction of those programs, they might be.  You have not &quot;been presented with all of the information&quot; on both sides.  My guess is you may have been presented with your pastor&#039;s distillation of the information from &quot;both sides.&quot;  The fact that you even present this false dichotomy is further evidence that your information is incomplete. 
 
And it&#039;s not strictly true that Dewde&#039;s beliefs disgust me.  That&#039;s a misreading of my comment.  It&#039;s the theme of heart-over-head that&#039;s reprehensible.  It&#039;s an advertising slogan.  In 99% of Dewde&#039;s life, I&#039;m sure he agrees that thinking is the proper thing to do when faced with a problem.  But when god is added into the mix, you suddenly have to use your heart instead?  It&#039;s nothing short of a boatload of special pleading.  If Dewde just waited for divine revelation as the sole guiding hand to point him through life, he surely wouldn&#039;t be where he is today, so it&#039;s disingenuous, and disgusting IMO, that this theme is used to sell the church, theism, and the Christian faith.  &quot;Oh, don&#039;t think about it.  Just use your heart, and Jesus will come into your life.&quot;  Replace &quot;Jesus&quot; with any other word and you would scoff at such a suggestion, but instead you simply nod in agreement.  I have no disagreement that the Jesus character as portrayed in the Christian New Testament is a noble person generally worthy of admiration.  You can point to specific deeds and sayings of Jesus and use them as examples to live by and lead a superb life.  There&#039;s just no need to weasel into the heart-over-head supernatural -- and ultimately implausible -- stuff. 
 
Your suggestion that a better word choice would be more effective is weird.  I assure you that I take a fair amount of time choosing my words, and in general every word is intentional.  If I dumb-down my comments to mitigate the magnitude of my concerns, then my comments would effectively say nothing.  The fact that they somehow agitate you, at least a little, is somewhat encouraging.  If you&#039;re going to disregard what I say, I hope you at least get a little irked at what you read, since it&#039;ll be more memorable.  :) 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not deriding Dewde.  I think he&#039;s a smart, accomplished, kind-hearted person.  But that doesn&#039;t make his beliefs immune to criticism, and it certainly doesn&#039;t mean that I have to take him as an all-or-nothing proposition.  I imagine that he writes this blog in part to get the occasional dissenting opinion rather than simply as a monument to his glory.  If that&#039;s untrue, then I hope he speaks up, because I sure do have more productive things to do with my time.  He also could surely moderate my comments into oblivion if he chooses.  What a boring and unproductive world you&#039;d inhabit if you couldn&#039;t criticize people&#039;s opinions.   I like seeing people&#039;s arguments for Christianity.  I think they&#039;re all silly, but they&#039;re indeed fascinating. </p>
<p>You may be correct that it doesn&#039;t hurt anyone that you believe what you believe, but your actions may or may not refute that.  As an arbitrary example, someone may be against the distribution of the Plan B contraceptive based on his beliefs.  Or against the distribution of the HPV vaccine to school-aged children.  Or stem cell research.  Or abortion rights.  Or evolution education.  Or sex education.  Although you might think that his actions are not hurting anyone, if you advocate public policies that encourage restriction of those programs, they might be.  You have not &quot;been presented with all of the information&quot; on both sides.  My guess is you may have been presented with your pastor&#039;s distillation of the information from &quot;both sides.&quot;  The fact that you even present this false dichotomy is further evidence that your information is incomplete. </p>
<p>And it&#039;s not strictly true that Dewde&#039;s beliefs disgust me.  That&#039;s a misreading of my comment.  It&#039;s the theme of heart-over-head that&#039;s reprehensible.  It&#039;s an advertising slogan.  In 99% of Dewde&#039;s life, I&#039;m sure he agrees that thinking is the proper thing to do when faced with a problem.  But when god is added into the mix, you suddenly have to use your heart instead?  It&#039;s nothing short of a boatload of special pleading.  If Dewde just waited for divine revelation as the sole guiding hand to point him through life, he surely wouldn&#039;t be where he is today, so it&#039;s disingenuous, and disgusting IMO, that this theme is used to sell the church, theism, and the Christian faith.  &quot;Oh, don&#039;t think about it.  Just use your heart, and Jesus will come into your life.&quot;  Replace &quot;Jesus&quot; with any other word and you would scoff at such a suggestion, but instead you simply nod in agreement.  I have no disagreement that the Jesus character as portrayed in the Christian New Testament is a noble person generally worthy of admiration.  You can point to specific deeds and sayings of Jesus and use them as examples to live by and lead a superb life.  There&#039;s just no need to weasel into the heart-over-head supernatural &#8212; and ultimately implausible &#8212; stuff. </p>
<p>Your suggestion that a better word choice would be more effective is weird.  I assure you that I take a fair amount of time choosing my words, and in general every word is intentional.  If I dumb-down my comments to mitigate the magnitude of my concerns, then my comments would effectively say nothing.  The fact that they somehow agitate you, at least a little, is somewhat encouraging.  If you&#039;re going to disregard what I say, I hope you at least get a little irked at what you read, since it&#039;ll be more memorable.  <img src='http://dewde.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the need to comment on this one.  I have been a Christian my entire life.  At no point - as a child, teenager, young adult, mature adult - have I ever felt as if I could do without my beliefs.  I am happy, sane and well-adjusted.  I have a great relationship with my family and my friends.  I do my best to do good and not do harm.  I love and am loved and I am at peace, even when things in this world and universe don&#039;t seem to be favoring me.  I do not take any drugs to make me feel this way, and therefore I am also pretty healthy.  I have a very positive outlook on life and I truly do think that ultimately good will prevail. 
 
I cannot imagine why anyone would want to make me change my mind - what difference would it make?  It doesn&#039;t hurt anyone that I believe what I believe.  In fact, my beliefs make me want to help all people, even the ones I don&#039;t particularly like. 
 
I likewise think that all other human beings are entitled to their own beliefs.  I can tell you what I feel and why I feel it, but I don&#039;t believe it is my crusade to make you believe the same.  You have been presented with all of the information on both sides and you made a choice just like I did. 
 
That being said - telling someone that their beliefs disgust you is something I don&#039;t understand at all.  Feeling anger and disgust at another person&#039;s choices and beliefs as related to God and his existence is what causes most of the anger and strife in this world.  I can understand that you want to debate the existence of God, but I&#039;m disappointed that you would deride your &quot;friend&quot; to accomplish an end.  If you truly want to change his mind, mocking him is not the way to do it.  Dewde seems to take it in stride, but other friends may not.  I am not saying stop debating them, I&#039;m just saying that choosing your words more wisely will make them listen and respect your opinion.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the need to comment on this one.  I have been a Christian my entire life.  At no point &#8211; as a child, teenager, young adult, mature adult &#8211; have I ever felt as if I could do without my beliefs.  I am happy, sane and well-adjusted.  I have a great relationship with my family and my friends.  I do my best to do good and not do harm.  I love and am loved and I am at peace, even when things in this world and universe don&#039;t seem to be favoring me.  I do not take any drugs to make me feel this way, and therefore I am also pretty healthy.  I have a very positive outlook on life and I truly do think that ultimately good will prevail. </p>
<p>I cannot imagine why anyone would want to make me change my mind &#8211; what difference would it make?  It doesn&#039;t hurt anyone that I believe what I believe.  In fact, my beliefs make me want to help all people, even the ones I don&#039;t particularly like. </p>
<p>I likewise think that all other human beings are entitled to their own beliefs.  I can tell you what I feel and why I feel it, but I don&#039;t believe it is my crusade to make you believe the same.  You have been presented with all of the information on both sides and you made a choice just like I did. </p>
<p>That being said &#8211; telling someone that their beliefs disgust you is something I don&#039;t understand at all.  Feeling anger and disgust at another person&#039;s choices and beliefs as related to God and his existence is what causes most of the anger and strife in this world.  I can understand that you want to debate the existence of God, but I&#039;m disappointed that you would deride your &quot;friend&quot; to accomplish an end.  If you truly want to change his mind, mocking him is not the way to do it.  Dewde seems to take it in stride, but other friends may not.  I am not saying stop debating them, I&#039;m just saying that choosing your words more wisely will make them listen and respect your opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: dewde</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>dewde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thx man. </description>
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		<title>By: BenofBenandJacq</title>
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		<dc:creator>BenofBenandJacq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 05:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phenomenal production on that video.  I love churches that are shaping culture, not reacting to it.  Thanks for sharing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phenomenal production on that video.  I love churches that are shaping culture, not reacting to it.  Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris F.</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leotards?  Boy?  Hero?  And all this time I thought religion was your main deficiency... 
 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leotards?  Boy?  Hero?  And all this time I thought religion was your main deficiency&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dewde</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator>dewde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poe&#039;s law. nice. Hadn&#039;t heard of that meme before.  
 
I referenced Godwin&#039;s Law because it seemed you were heading down a path of character assassination, of which the next logical step is ad hominem. What I read was that I pretend to make a serious effort. I pray as a charade. That sort of thing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poe&#039;s law. nice. Hadn&#039;t heard of that meme before.  </p>
<p>I referenced Godwin&#039;s Law because it seemed you were heading down a path of character assassination, of which the next logical step is ad hominem. What I read was that I pretend to make a serious effort. I pray as a charade. That sort of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: dewde</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>dewde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Throw a pair of leotards on that boy, he&#039;s my hero. :-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throw a pair of leotards on that boy, he&#039;s my hero. <img src='http://dewde.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob Jones</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think anyone who believes in one god claims to have empirical knowledge that the other gods are not real. This too is an impossibility. 
 
Hey, Dewde, I got Chris F. to defend you. That&#039;s what happens when someone like me is a little to black and white. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think anyone who believes in one god claims to have empirical knowledge that the other gods are not real. This too is an impossibility. </p>
<p>Hey, Dewde, I got Chris F. to defend you. That&#039;s what happens when someone like me is a little to black and white.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris F.</title>
		<link>http://dewde.com/2008/12/how-my-brain-was-washed-by-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I agree that his evidence is not likely to be *good* evidence.  I am a firm advocate of the &quot;extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence&quot; camp.  His evidence doesn&#039;t approach extraordinary in the slightest.  And I *do* think he&#039;s crazy for believing this stuff. 
 
But still, that required extraordinary evidence *might* happen.  I have zero expectation that it will, but it might.  And I also think &quot;personal&quot; evidence is total crap, so I didn&#039;t intend to imply that his personal reasons were valid.  I&#039;m just saying that such evidence *may* exist, and if it does, it&#039;s reasonable to acknowledge it.  And even if some god-implying evidence existed, there&#039;s still a gargantuan gap to cross to get to Christianity, so that&#039;s another problem.  I agree with you in a practical sense: any actual atheist isn&#039;t going to change his/her mind, in part because it would never even occur to them to consider that there are gods.  Dewde may refute this, but it seems like when he says he was an atheist, he in fact wasn&#039;t.  I simply can&#039;t fathom that anyone who even nominally called themselves an atheist would find themselves even &quot;test praying&quot; such as Dewde did in his story.  But I find it equally unlikely that he&#039;s trying to deceive people about his history for dramatic effect, though it does apparently make for quality church video.  To be sure, I think Dewde is confused on these points. 
 
So, while I completely agree with you that it ain&#039;t never gonna happen that someone truly godless is going to turn to the other side for rational reasons,  I still don&#039;t see how that remains impossible.  I almost hate myself for appearing to defend the honor of atheists-turned-christians here.  I think such a conversion is a terribly misguided act based on misinterpretation of life&#039;s events and a fundamental ignorance of advancements in epistemological methods and virtually every life science.  These are the tools that have enabled society and knowledge to advance in spite of religion, and the religious consciously choose to disregard this and even revel in their ignorance.  I just mean to leave open the scant possibility that it could in theory be a rational choice. 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I agree that his evidence is not likely to be *good* evidence.  I am a firm advocate of the &quot;extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence&quot; camp.  His evidence doesn&#039;t approach extraordinary in the slightest.  And I *do* think he&#039;s crazy for believing this stuff. </p>
<p>But still, that required extraordinary evidence *might* happen.  I have zero expectation that it will, but it might.  And I also think &quot;personal&quot; evidence is total crap, so I didn&#039;t intend to imply that his personal reasons were valid.  I&#039;m just saying that such evidence *may* exist, and if it does, it&#039;s reasonable to acknowledge it.  And even if some god-implying evidence existed, there&#039;s still a gargantuan gap to cross to get to Christianity, so that&#039;s another problem.  I agree with you in a practical sense: any actual atheist isn&#039;t going to change his/her mind, in part because it would never even occur to them to consider that there are gods.  Dewde may refute this, but it seems like when he says he was an atheist, he in fact wasn&#039;t.  I simply can&#039;t fathom that anyone who even nominally called themselves an atheist would find themselves even &quot;test praying&quot; such as Dewde did in his story.  But I find it equally unlikely that he&#039;s trying to deceive people about his history for dramatic effect, though it does apparently make for quality church video.  To be sure, I think Dewde is confused on these points. </p>
<p>So, while I completely agree with you that it ain&#039;t never gonna happen that someone truly godless is going to turn to the other side for rational reasons,  I still don&#039;t see how that remains impossible.  I almost hate myself for appearing to defend the honor of atheists-turned-christians here.  I think such a conversion is a terribly misguided act based on misinterpretation of life&#039;s events and a fundamental ignorance of advancements in epistemological methods and virtually every life science.  These are the tools that have enabled society and knowledge to advance in spite of religion, and the religious consciously choose to disregard this and even revel in their ignorance.  I just mean to leave open the scant possibility that it could in theory be a rational choice.</p>
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